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Stu-Pendus 
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 Topic: Have BMW stolen the show in 2010Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 7:14pm |
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Have BMW pulled a master stroke with the new S1000 RR ?
Whilst nearly all the other manufacturers have sanitized and generally softened their power delivery in order to make their products easier to ride and more politically correct,BMW have firmly stuck their two fingers up at the mainstream manufacturers and produced a fire breathing thou.
Traditionally BMW have produced shall we say quirky and individual looking bikes with "before christ" designed power plants (recent IL4 excluded) all wrapped in a very germanic "lack of passion" style,until now.The S1000 RR is quite nicely styled (headlights excluded) with a wiff of 2009 ZX10 R about it,in a small,lightweight with good ergos,good gadgets especialy in the more expensive version and power and torque to crush all others.On one of the Fireblade sites that i go on the mood is frankly grim with the Americans in particular changing the rules of what a good litre bike should be to make the Blade look better(which i cant see that it is TBH).One of the members from Dubai dynoed (dynojet 250i)his standard 08 Blade at 157.15 RWBHP and then put his mates S 1000 RR and got 178 RWBHP in race mode and then 189RWBHP in what BMW call "slick mode"with gobs of torque everywhere(BTW,i know that different dynos on different days give different results).The power curve is more top endy (like a D16 RR) than the Blade but thats 30+ RWBHP more and if you compare that to the new R1,its even more impressive.
Now i know that its only BHP that i'm talking about but from what I gather the handling, brakes and weight are impresive too and all this with a 3 years warranty.
I think that for a lot of folks looking to upgrade to a newer IL4,with almost superstock power, fully accessorized with DTC,ABS ,quick shifter and alarm/immobilizer for £1310.00, will not have to look further than the S 1000 RR.
There hasn't been such a obvious choice of one in the hypersports IL4 1000 market for as long as i can remember.
Have BMW have stolen the show in 2010 ????
Its looking like it.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 7:37pm |
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Frankly yes! I read a mag article the other day saying how good it was and how they would not have been surprised if the price had been circa £20k and not £11k that it is......
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 7:43pm |
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And the R1 up 25% over last year.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 7:53pm |
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Yes
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 8:04pm |
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So BMW could be loosing GS sales to Ducati with the Multistrada,
But maybe more Ducati sportsbike sales could end up being BMW's gain.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 9:01pm |
if all goes well
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 9:21pm |
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I think that Henners tried one out but it would have been pretty dire/cold conditions so guess that he didn't give it the full berries but i can see no point in spending any more dosh in trying to catch up power wise as the cost would be prohibitive and The BMW has all this power with a road legal can too.I might have to try one out but bet that its not as complient and easy to ride as the Blade and if it is..............................................
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 9:27pm |
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Its great in every way, and even better if it stops Stu from waving the dyno results about. But for me its all about soul and belonging to a group of like minded people.
Not always just the good things but sometimes the bad also.
Would I put one in the Garage, oh yes.
would I miss looking at the Red Italian hell yes.
Sadly I dont have Henners bank balance so I will keep the Red one thanks.
Saying that I believe it is the bike of the year without doubt.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 9:36pm |
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Have to agree Kev. Since owning my first Ducati I don't think there is another make I would crave for despite their performance. I do like the Aprilias and Guzzis though so at least its all Italian bikes with soul....
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 10:13pm |
 Mine's the least powerfull top one and here Arthurbikemad's more powerfull but slightly less superior '07 model just for you kev..........................
 Oh and did i tell you that my 748R made 108.2 RWBHP and that my old GSXR 1000 K6 made 172 RWBHP.........................
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 10:34pm |
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Do I like it................yes
Would I buy one...........Yes Will i...............prob NO Excellent value for money, looks fair, equipment good..........would i have one over a SORTED RSV4Factory..........no. Has it stolen Italy`s crown? NO and they dont do it in Red either  |
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 10:54pm |
Same - here, haven't ordered one and won't be either. I have a BMW K1200s which is amazing but I know that when the sun shines and I want to just go out and have a wonderful experience (not just ride a bike) then the 996 will be the one that I'll take. There's something so right about a red Ducati
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 11:45pm |
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Sorry guys but this thread is not aimed at anything vaguely italian,V4 or red,its aimed at other IL4 jap bikes like Honda,Kawasaki,Suzuki and Yamaha,the clue is in my original comments and its placment in"non italian bike chat"
Simples.
I dont know,you italian bike owners...............................
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Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 7:36am |
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The S1000RR doesn't exist in a vacuum Stu - it has to be comapred with other superbike wherever the come from ... |
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Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 8:25am |
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Yeh Stu, what Henners says
But if I must answer your question, the answer is YES.
So if you want to be on the best, most powerful, best handling IL4 machine buy BMW Sir.
K
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Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 12:43pm |
The trouble is that there is no comparison from any other area pound for pound,horsepower for horsepower,gimmick for gimmick on a purely high volume sales sportsbike for the masses basis for this price
Oh and one more for you Kev with lots of love from Arthurbikemad.
 And one of a GSXR 1000 superstock verse a D16 RR.
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Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 1:48pm |
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Just back from No Limits Almeria. When we arrived to offload bikes from three artics on Sunday monring, BMW Germany had a customer test day going. €1800 for two days on road and two days on track all-in inc flights, accom, petrol and tyres and bike for 4 days (€2k max damage). Watched them for a while, a couple were going a decent pace and bike after bike changing gear with the boom of the quickshifter was a lovely sound, although they are quiet, so could do with an exhaust. Had a sit on one, they're tiny and very well made, very impressive bike. The green grows on you and you have to do a double take to not think it's a Suzuki. Reckon it will sell very well. Bit like their M3 or M5; not the fastest or prettiest, but often said to be the benchmark others aspire to.
I'd buy one
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You want one dont you Stu, come on now step out of the closet and put these comfy slippers on.
Just right for all those track days.
And think of the charts you could post up. its a no brainer.
I will be booking a test ride when it gets a wee bit warmer, just to see.
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Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 4:30pm |
Good boy,just make sure that you ask for the GS.........
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Jesus for Wee JohnyB to say they are ''TINY'' means we are talking MatchBox size !!
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Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 10:11pm |
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Just back from excel
i'd rather have an Aprilia Factory with an austin aprilia system & bodywork :-)
I'm sure the BMW's a great bike but will it get your heart racing when you open that garage door..... not sure....& those headlights......
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Posted: 05 Feb 2010 at 10:22pm |
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Stu,
the answer to your origonal is YES, BMW seems to have pulled the rug from under Honda etc with this little beauty. If I had a bucket full of free cash I would buy this rather than all the other il4`s except maybe the new MV........... |
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Posted: 06 Feb 2010 at 1:34am |
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I don't like wee bikes!
how much does a superstock gixxer cost anyway?
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sounds like a skeleton havin' a w*nk
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Posted: 06 Feb 2010 at 8:02am |
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The 1000cc IL4s are all great bikes and I enjoyed my MV until my back gave out but for soul it's still a vee twin IMHO. I've ridden V4s and triples and the V2 is still my favourite |
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Posted: 06 Feb 2010 at 12:47pm |
About thrupence now due to the BMW.
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